From what I can see, no two posters have the exact same take on guiliani. Turnbull loves him. Pizza can't stand him. But for polarity's sake, you could say my opinion is the opposite pole to Turnbull's. I really don't see any redeeming qualities in giuliani as an attempted but failed human.
You misread both PB and me, Alfa. PB said he loved him while he was in office, but can't stand him now. I said he was a great mayor but I didn't say I loved him then or now--I admired him as a great mayor.
