What some people must do to remain credible IMO is stop blaming the entire CIA organization which is entirely false IMO and there are agents on record who have stated they tried to verify the rumor / chatter and save the presidents life but rather a handful of rogue CIA officers in the or were in the anti Cuba Mongoose division . Specifically men such as David Morales , David Atlee Phillips , Tony Sforza , Bill Harvey and a handful of mob contacts like Martino ( he confessed his role ) and Roselli . Then you have guys like Allen Dulles , Ed Landsdale and others that are highly suspected but no admission of guilt or smoking gun evidence, however there is a ton of circumstancial evidence , especially Dulles ( head of the commission as the cover up was a more difficult task then the murder itself ).

It's extremely important people read about the Chicago assassination plot just 2 + weeks earlier where the secret service was tipped off by a man that only identified himself as "Lee" and thwarted the plot , however this was intensely covered up , to the point of jailing a SS agent that tried to communicate this plot to the Warren Commission, but instead the day after he arrived in DC to tell his story he was framed for fraud and jailed and shut up for a long time and this was a great man and SS agent by the name of Arthur Bolden - first black SS agent ever just trying to do his job but had his life ruined . When you read this , its crystal clear the plan mirrored the Dallas plot , all the way down to the lone nut who was arrested and like LHO was x military , from the same damn secret U2 Japan CIA base and which they could label as not mentally stable . Unfortunately for the plotters , 2 of the 4 Cubans assassins were caught after being under constant surveillance , and were arrested with high power rifles , a copy of the motorcade route and their expected location in a high building with clear shot angles and views where JFK was to be murdered during his motorcade route . To this day the government, who actually arrested at least 2 of the operational cuban men have IDs of these men ( unless of course the evidence was destroyed ), but miracularisly the case was quickly buried , contained and everyone was told to never speak about it again . I really hope when all records are released in 2017, the identities of these 2 Cuban men are made known as that would be a huge break for the case . Now we know why during the JFK document act , the SS destroyed advance team security details in the trips leading up to Dallas for comparison sake . Chicago is likely a big reason for this and luckily it does not appear Chicago LE was as corruptavle as Dallas LE when it came to the JFK assassination.

The Chicago story , or plot shows the murder had more men and parts then just LHO (ironic huh how the Chicago tipster name was Lee - maybe this is partly why he was chosen ?). It boggles my mind that nobody discusses the Chicago plot and the police actually arrested 2 of the would be assassins , in terms of evidence it doesn't get much bigger than that as then you can begin tracking people , their movements and contacts back ( like HSCA investigator Hardaway did with the Castro did it sources back to CIA propaganda expert David Atlee Phillips ) , but hardly many Americans know about this entire episode , but rightly so as its cover up what was as important as the Dallas cover up as it would have exposed that the assassination was a conspiracy given the multiple cities and people , in essence JFK was being hunted which to me is a terrible terrible thought .

Anyway maybe it's just me but this was not an organization hit , this was a hit by expiernced CIA assassination men , anti Castro Cuban shooters and of course some big money men for finance ( likely Hunt from Hunt Oil and client Murtchison- Dallas Cowboys owner and in sure a few more , what should be investigated is the stock trading of some of these big guys right before the murder as I'm sure that has some revealing info . The big ? Is were LBJ and / or Hoover involved in the pre plot , or strictly the cover up but clearly they were involved and were damn straight vital to the lone not theory coverup , without them you can't get away with it without their actions . Also of note Dallas was clearly the better place for the hit as the CIA director of plans , Richard Bissel , was fired along with Dulles after it was determined they lied to JFK about the bay of pigs and the local Cubans support ( or rather non support ), Bissel brother was the mayor of Dallas at the time and thus could better control Dallas LE and prosecutors and as important not fight back when JFK body was illegally moved from Dallas to prevent a non planner controlled autopsy that would of confirmed the shots from the front of JFK witnessed by over 40 Dallas hospital workers ( mainly their top medical people that deal with death by firearms . Is it also horrific to me that the 2 MD autopsy doctors selected had NO firearm / combat autopsy experience , lol .

It's almost comical to me to people who have actually studied the governments ( most released in the 90s that were NEVER supposed to see the light of day ) still believe the WC actual story , which btw our own govt in 1978 disagreed with and claimed it was "a probable conspiracy".

Very intriguing will be the Church Commitee documents still sealed for national security reasons that was set up to investigate CIA wrong doings ( there were way too many , basically they were a mob killing leaders at home and foreign with no accountability ) as Richard Schweiket publicly said many times CIA finger prints were all over the JFK hit. I understand and support protecting some crucial intelligence sources and activities but when it comes to the murder of our president , exceptions can be made , and were in the 1990s and that's why now it's clear LHO had ingelligence assets all over him going all the way back to his secret U2 radio frequency work at most secret foreign base in Jaoan given the U2 recon activity over Russia . LHO work was crucial and when he defected it was a major exposure area for the U.S. And only a few months later the Russians actually shot one down ( no direct proof LHO info contributed to this but my guess is it would have been to estaish LHO bona fides allowing him more access ( T the end of the day he was able to get a decent read on how far the Russians were behind the U.S. In the field of plastics .

Even more incredible was this traitor was loaned over $1,000 to come back to the U.S., was greeted immediately by a travel diplomat ( CIA unofficial cover ) and struck immediate friendships within the Dallas Russian community who were anti communist lol ( the exact opposite of the people a communist would spend time with ) . The individuals and 2 in particular were of course his handlers and later confirmed in 1978 ( so much for the WC finding that the CIA had zero contact with LHO, despite his actions of trea that should of resulted in an immediate sentence of death . If it weren't for the JFK movie the as plotters probably would have put them in the clear but those documents released showed this murder was clearly a conspiracy with the CIA at a minimum following and / using LHO by the highest levels of the CIA ( Jesse James Angleton at a minimum- his group sole mission was to " spy on spies" basically confirming LHO was some sort of intelligence asset but the CIA would not comment further on this .

Let's hope the 2017 data dump has even more damning evidence that completely refuted the warren commission .
I give Obama a fat F in helping solve this crime so that the country could put it behind us and possibly serve as a platform where just maybe citizens start trusting our govt again , something this crime and watergate hasn't allowed to happen

Anyway this is a great thread for those few of us , lol to share ideas on a topic we obviously care very much about , the unsolved murder of an anti war president by individuals in his own government .