Originally Posted By: FriendoftheFamily
Originally Posted By: Oscarthedago
Originally Posted By: FriendoftheFamily
I just don't see a way to get Cleveland ever started again without a lot of casino cash to throw around. It takes a lot of cash to get things rolling again and there aren't enough jobs there to support the "tax" on the Area. Not enough around like what someone that would be interested in starting anyways. Too many people are just letting it go - because every time they get anything going it is jumped on and there isn't enough structure there to hold it together after the initial bust. Too many other ways to make money.


Plus there is nobody of any substance there. Guys like Lonardo, Rockman, Scalish, Licavoli were old school. Guys like Joe Loose and Russell Papalardo never had and will never have what it takes. It's been over for 20 years+ in Cleveland. And those days are never coming back.


Add to that just too damn many people are DEAD and the ones left that knows how - knows better than to start up again at their age - they don't need it.


Licavoli needed to make about 25 guys before he got sent away...he didn't. Now, a few small timers still exist but nobody who was considered a rising star. If Cleveland were still functioning, Ron Carabbia from Youngstown certainly would have been considered for the job...but he is smart and never went back to the life since he was released from prison 13 years ago.


As Uncle Charlie used to say, "Never get into pissing matches with skunks."