I'm reading the Five Families for like the third time and came across Joe Cantalupo reporting that in the midst of the confusion surrounding Colombos shooting, that Carmine Persico and his brothers wrested control of the family away from Colombo's kids and loyalists for themselves. Cantalupo is quoted as saying "The Colombo boys are on the bottom now and The Persicos are on the top."

With that said, I know Anthony, Joe Jr. & the third one pled guilty during a case in which they were accused of things including gambling, loansharking, extortion and murder during the early 80's, but I didn't even think they were all made, let alone involved. My question is this, were they ever in a position to takeover the family after the shooting of their dad? And where were they during the Persico/Orena war, and which side did they fall on?