Kinda off subject but I read somewhere the Colombo family allowed Albert to go to the genovese with punchy but they always nixed them when there name would come up to be made. Maybe hallo got it quicker but even in the late 80tys when Vic oreana boss he kept beefing with punchy till chin forced them to let it go. Guess it was a real sore spot for the Colombo family to let them 2 walk all over Brooklyn under another flag. Think scarpa mentions this. It really pissed lil Vic off.