Carmine was the middle brother, Michael the youngest. To my knowledge, Carmine was never identified as a made guy. I know he was once a witness for the prosecution in a murder but recanted his testimony at the trial, claiming the police had forced the pre trial statement out of him. Michael was definitely made. He went by the moniker of "Gumba Mike". It doesn´t appear that he was a member of any specific Genovese crew, but may have been assaigned directly to the Genovese administration with the task of relaying messages between Vito´s acting bosses Catena, Miranda and Eboli. He may have been the caretaker of some of Vito´s rackets while Vito was in prison. Sometime after Vito´s death, it seems that Mike retired to Italy and died there in 1986.

One thing needs to be mentioned regarding Tommy Ryan. He was very suspicious about the Commission and their dealings with the whole Joe Bonanno affair. He openly critizised Carlo Gambino for undermining Bonanno´s cause. For example, he was not convinced that the Commission had sent messages to Bonanno in a proper way. He expressed despise and suspected that these messages were sent, only when they knew that Bonanno was out of town and not around to receive them. If interested, you can read all about it in documents found on MaryFerrell.


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