I still think big dino would get the same as shots 18. No one was convicted for any off calabros murders and I thought it would help deross and persico on appeal from wild bills. Deross was convicted of wild bills murder cause he got bumped to underboss and said something to bills wife about where's the loanshark book. That's why he got life crazy. Frankie log was at least debatable caught on a tape with gotti.