Originally Posted By: padrone
Hold on a second, lets not go nuts here. You are saying that we don't see violence by radical Islam in India, Southeast Asia and China? What about the 2002 Bali bombing where 202 innocent people died? What about the 1998 riots that targeted Chinese Christians all over Indonesia. Raping, looting and killing people because they are a religious and ethnic minority. What about the 108 people who were killed in Mumbai (Bombay) in 2008 by extremists? How about the Uyghur Muslim terrorists in China with their numerous acts of violence?

Do I believe that all Muslims are terrorists? No, and I do believe that the vast majority are good people. But you cannot claim that China, India and Southeast is a bastion of freedom of religion. That complete BS and that it a fact. There is plenty of terrorist training in places like I don't know, the Maluku Islands. Don't try to pull the wool over peoples eyes just because some are not as informed as others. That list above could go on and on and on. I have been hearing that Islam is a religion of peace for the past 15 years. If that is the case why the f do pundits have to keep saying it??


You certainly bring up a valid point, I don't know if I said that you will never find extremists in Southeast Asia I probably implied it when trying ti argue that Islam as a whole is not to blame, I was wrong in that regard. I do see a trend with the examples you use, the people who carried out these attacks were born in the Middle East (2008 Mumbai attack, Pakistan) or have a connection with radicals from the Middle East (2002 Bali bombings leader fought in the Afghan-Soviet conflict and had ties to Osama bin Laden). The riots in 1998 Indonesia we more racially and economically motivated, I don't think if a Chinese immigrant told the rioters that they were a Muslim, it would have stopped them from being assaulted or have there business burned to the ground.

You aren't going to find a perfect place in the World. I am not saying that Southeast Asia is 100% free of inequalities, no place on Earth is. But the injustices that for instance women face in the Middle East and Africa like; stoning to death and not being able to drive are problems in places like Pakistan, Iran and certain countries in Africa and a lot of people associate these things with Islam as a whole. Those are not Islamic problems they are problems in the countries that is happening in. Also a place like Indonesia is more liberal that Afghanistan, where 99% of people are Muslim, out of fear retribution. Indonesia's population is over 80% Muslim but you don't have anything to fear if you want to be a Christian or Buddhist, so compared to the Middle East they are extremely liberal.


The problem is when people read the Quran or the Bible they pick and choose what they want to take literally and what are metaphors. Islam, Christianity, Judaism are not religions of peace or violence, what you want out of your religion is what you get. If you want are a violent ignorant hateful person then your Islam, Christianity or Judaism will be violent ignorant hateful.

Last edited by thedudeabides87; 01/13/15 02:04 PM.

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