Told you, some of what youre saying isnt accurate. Which is why its hard for me to buy what youre saying regarding recent Philly. But thats just me, my opinion probably doesnt nor should it matter to you. The 5-8 guys comment comes from the guys mentioned in some articles as being active. Jackie Giacolone, but I'll excuse him since hes the boss. Tony La Piana, Tony Pal, Specs Tocco, the D'annas prior to their indictment, theres a few more which escape me. But thats 5 guys right there that are still reportedly active in Detroit. Go on Real Deal right now, click a Philly-Merlino thread, any which you like, you'll see the 40-45 total membership estimations. This has gone on far too long, nothing against you, but i just dont find your info regarding Philly to be very accurate.

I'll just agree to disagree.