I didn't mean on the street in that first paragraph, I meant to say in total, in combination with active members, retired members and imprisoned members it's about 40-45 made guys. That's what I meant to say.
Again semantics, "15-20 active guys in total" was another typo, I also meant just 15-20 made guys in total. As my next sentence stated that there are only 5-8 guys that are currently known about who are reportedly in Detroit earning.
I haven't seen anything that states there is 50 members for a definite fact in Philly LCN. Everything I've seen estimates between 40-45, from news articles, to credible posters on places like RD, and the old Black Hand forum, the estimate is usually 40-45 made members in total. I've never seen the 50 members thing being stated as a fact, other than in that OC report from 2004.
I just think in terms of activity, Philly is a lot more comparable to another small family like Detroit, contrary to some beliefs.
I'm also not convinced that they've continued to make new members in recent years either. Do you have a source for this?
You're talking out of both sides of your mouth. On the first page of this thread you cited the Gamtax case as your evidence that the Detroit family could still possibly be involved in drug trafficking - and that was nearly 20 years ago. But now, here you are trying to ignore the 2004 report - only 11 years old - saying it's out of date. Sorry but you can't have it both ways.
Nowhere do I recall "40-45" being cited as the total membership for the Philadelphia family. And where do you get the "5-8 guys currently earning in Detroit" from?
If you actually followed this stuff closely, which you should before trying to argue on the forums, you would know that it's come out in recent years (including the Ligambi trial) about these guys being made -
2011:
Dominic Grande (sponsored by Anthony Nicodemo)
Salvatore “Sonny” Mazzone (sponsored by Steve Mazzone)
Joseph “Joey Electric” Servidio (sponsored by Joe Licata)
2007:
Louis "Big Lou" Fazzini (sponsored by Joe Licata)
Eric Esposito (sponsored by Michael Lancelotti)
2005:
Anthony "Ant" Staino
Anthony Nicodemo
Damion "Dame" Cannolichio
Martin "Marty Crutch" Curro
