Bonds was 1000 times the player A-Roid is. Bonds was already a 1st ballot Hall of Famer when he first started juicing in 1998. As i said earlier his Single Season and All Time HR Records should be wiped, as well as his Single Season Slugging % record but other than that he's a member of the Hall of Fame on merit. McGwire and Sosa are the epitome of the Steroid Generation, decent ball players that used steroids to become superstars. Neither should ever be in the HOF, McGwire in particular who claimed that he took Steroids practically all his career for health purposes rolleyes .

There's no reason at all to ban Rose from the HOF, first it was he could have been betting against his team, and apparently it's now he may have been juicing rolleyes . No proof to be seen of course, and if anyone seriously believes that there's no Juicers or Managers that manipulated their teams results for profits in the HOF, then i have a bridge for sale.

What about Gaylord Perry in the HOF? A guy who by his own admission cheated for most of his career, for whatever reason Perry admitting that he cheated is not the same as Rose possibly cheating rolleyes .

Gaylord Perry threw the spitball, an illegal pitch that was outlawed in 1920.

It was common knowledge that Perry used the spitball, which he learned from Bob Shaw in 1964 when they were teammates with the San Francisco Giants.

There were many attempts to catch Perry in the act of "loading up." Most caused great controversy, but none ever resulted in positive proof.

Perry relished the attempts to catch him using the illegal pitch since he believed that batters who thought he was throwing the pitch would be adversely affected.

During the 1971 playoffs between the Giants and the Pittsburgh Pirates, a television reporter asked Perry's five-year-old daughter Allison if her father threw the greaseball.

"It's a hard slider," she responded.

Last edited by Camarel; 11/21/14 04:46 AM.