well, to be perfectly honest, pete rose never used steroids, everything he did he did with natural ability.

those who were juiced and set records did far worse than rose, when I started this thread I didn't think he belonged in the hall, but, in view of what others have done, Clemens lying to congress, bonds juicing for years, mcquire, sosa, more than i can mention.

I now think juicers have shamed baseball far more than rose,I say let rose in on the strength of his achievments, but don't let arod in.