Your right no need to keep going back and forth with this . Bottom line tommy and his friends including you as I can see from your post . Wanted to try and be tough guys . But when it came down to getting serious all you do is call the cops . So sit here and talk like tough guys . Jeff and jerry were and still are pretty serious guys . If they weren't then when they were still on the streets for a month after no one said or did shit ? Brainwash ? Project trash ? The only one I ever herd of being a skinner is Tommy , Jerald ,Jeff quinlen , and 5 of there other friends for what they did to Kim Chandler . I have gotten to know Jeff's family very well and his brother was a crazy fuck but got out . Knicks even further proof you don't know shit ! With an accusation like that if you had the balls to confront him on your statement I'm sure you would have to have the cops on speed dial .