It's almost impossible to get a good loaf of Italian bread here in Dixie. There is a NY style Deli over in Pinehurst which allegedly has it's bagel dough and water shipped in every few days. Sometimes their bagels are great and sometimes not. We had an excellent German bakery in town and the baker told me that even he can't make a goof NY style Italian bread because of the water and humidity here. Who knows- could just be an excuse. We sure do miss that bread down here.