If the bikers are more toughest motherfucker then the mobster,explain to me why the Hell's Angels or the Outlaws,that are the most numerous biker clubs haven't declared war against the mob families ?
why Pagans haven't declared war against the Philly mob ?
Are more numerous and stronger than the the mafia (400 vs 40-50). Maybe because you can be a tough son of a bitch when you want, but if your "brothers" begin to die and know to get long prison terms, then you think about it and know that it is better to work with them instead of attacking them.
In addition bikers are recognizable, the mobsters no; You never know who is that can hit you.
If John Gotti wasn't in prison and with cancer, the black that attacked him had already been killed by Gotti himself.
small example and sorry if I go out of the post.
When Cutolo declared war to the old Camorra families had thousands of soldiers for most young men ready to kill anyone and rule in the prisons, the other families had 100 or 200 men, but they were more expert and eventually won them.
This is the difference between the mob and the bikers, quality vs quantity.
What's quality in gamgster for you? Being street smart, down to kill anyone
(Even in front of cops), how they conduct their criminal operations or approach rivals. Or just simple criminal experience? Can you narrative how did the war between Cutolo and the Camorra families happened or explain how these "expert" mobsters won. I can show you the contrary between the war between Sinaloa cartel and the Amado Carillo family(Juarez Cartel). Even though Chapo had the army and federal police on his payroll in Valley(Ciudad Juarez city and surrounding areas) and thousands of low quality gang bangers(Mexicles) he lost the war against a shell of a cartel that used be the most powerful in Mexico and Latin America called the Amado Carillo family. Chapo had the political and the Chichuaha state backing him up, from the local politicians to the jail guards. Not to mention 10,000 federal police and soldiers, Juarez city alone had about a combined 5,000 federal police and soldiers many on Chapos payroll. Imagine that. 5,000 soldiers and federal police plus thousands of gang bangers vs 5,000 hard core Barrio Azteca gang members they conduct the local distribution and retail sales for La Limea which itself is kinda of the guys in charge of the Juarez drug corridor for the Amado Carillo family. For every 8 Barrio Azteca members or affiliates, the soldiers and federal police detained one Mexicles(Chapos gangbangers). Chapo originally went for the corridor itself which he kind of won, in the sense he didn't have to pay taxes to the Amado Carillo family but then he went for local distribution and retail sales and that's when he started to get his ass kicked. He did managed to go hold part of the city's local drug sales but Barrio Azteca managed by La Linea ultimately kicked the Mexicles out. Now Chapos guys (Gente Nueva) operate mainly on the outer outskirts of the area let alone Ciudad Juarez itself. Chapo had the political and police/army connections there but he ultimately lost against a well entrenched drug family that has operated since the 90s.
