i dont know everything bout these guys no1 does i know u didnt technically make the chart i didnt mean my post towards u i meant it in general. i was just saying the scarfo guys are pretty much done with that life they all did serious time. the media has nothing to talk bout rite now cause nothin is goin on in the philly mob. i remember the delco nostra bullshit with lou m a few yrs ago and there was a chart that was so crazy they put the guys that played cards in the hangout as associates. just knowing some1 doesnt really make u an associate. south philly is small everybody knows at least 1 of them guys. if thats the case 70% of us would b on that chart. keep up the posts a lot of what ur saying has a lot of truth. thanks