I am not convinced that Cleveland has 10 made guys or that Loose was "named boss." There is absolutely no documentation in any federal affadavits or court records and I don't believe that "Cleveland is smarter" than other families. I know Ron Carabbia personally and I know he is in Florida and enjoying his 80's and time with his grandchildren. Other than RC, there is NOBODY in Youngstown connected to Cleveland any longer. In Youngstown, there are absolutely no associates who are connected to Pittsburgh as Pittsburgh has been defunct since 2008. While I do believe that Cleveland and Pittsburgh has some gambling going on, I do not believe in any way, shape or form that there is a structured hierarchy.

I do believe that Cleveland associates helped out quite a bit, but I don't believe that there are 10 members. Could you provide the list and the source where you heard they are made?


Uncle Charlie once said; "Don't get into pissing matches with skunks."