Cmon man, I don't recall ivyleague ever once saying that. You're giving us Chicago posters a bad name. And who gives a shit If someone from out of town thinks Grand Avenue Crew is defunct? Who really cares? Because compared to the old days, when they had control of the Vegas strip & the West Coast operations in Denver, Phoenix, etc etc, They might as well be. But either way, who cares? Trying to convince someone to think the way You do is something women do.