Originally Posted By: GaryMartin
Originally Posted By: Turnbull
Capone fled to Chicago because he had to. Police were after him for two murders, and an Irish gang, the White Handers, were hunting him for beating up one of their members. He probably would have been killed or gone to prison had he remained in NY.

Keep in mind that Torrio was no more than a well-connected ward heeler in Brooklyn before he moved to Chicago. There was far more opportunity for non-Sicilians like Torrio and Capone in Chicago than in NY at that time. The Outfit under Torrio and Capone wasn't a Mafia family, and included quite a few well-placed members who weren't even Italian.


I don't understand. Could someone clarify?

Wayne Johnson says the same in his book about the Outfit not being a Mafia family under Torrio and Capone. But it was considered a Mafia family under Ricca, Accardo and Giancana. Why ? Ricca, Accardo and Giancana included non-Italians such as Murray Humphreys and Gus Alex.


The Capone organization was more like a gang.When Nitti and Ricca came to power,it was the Camorra crime syndicate(Al was also a Neapolitan).Accardo,Giancana,Aiuppa and so on...its the Mafia.The Outfit always had non-Italians included as made members,no matter what people say.And also no pricking finger ceremonies included...not until the 70's I think


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