ok i belive you,i hear what you are sayin and i agree..i know that the was the vario crew and the bamboo and all..i am just talkin about the late development of canarsie,that influenced the late populatin of people and late settling,thus the late activation of organazed crime..i mean do you know who was big in the area beside paul vario?which were the other families and mobsters that called this are of flatlands and canarsie thei hq?