Just an aside: I was at a Christmas party with a lot of lawyers and got to talking to one of the wives as she and I h ad something in common. She said she grew up on Long Island and her mother took her with her to a friends house. They were talking older lady stuff when the friend told this bored girl- "Why don't you go down in the basement where my son and his band are practicing. THe son turned out to be a very young Billy Joel. She said the family is very nice.