Originally Posted By: olivant
Originally Posted By: XDCX
Originally Posted By: klydon1
Where some agnostics might suddenly hope for the miracle of everlasting life when his life is suddenly in danger, it doesn't mean he actually would believe it. Don't confuse hope with belief.


In fact, one could use the same reasoning and say that if a person of faith ever doubts the existence of a higher power, even for just a moment, then they are secretly an atheist.

And that would be equally fallacious as what Ivy is claiming.


Again, God's existence or lack thereof is independent of anyone's belief in God or lack thereof.


You're preaching to the choir, my friend (pun intended).


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