Giacomo, let it be noted that I am not disagreeing with what Frank c said. Mainly arguing against the "that's what it's come to" line being used to make the Outfit look like a failing auto dealership. Knocking down 6 or seven people & taking over the Outfit was a reality during the syndicate's prime just as much as it was during the late 90s. Joey Aiuppa & Jack Cerone did it.