the old bonanno acting boss Anthony spero was OK with killing rats kids and the act boss urso was OK with going after sal vitale family. nothing happened thou. good old gangster scarfo had a rats dad shot and gas pipe had fat petes sister shot. I think the order came from gas not Vic just my guess. seems like he wanted to impress chin but gas didn't give a f. Sammy the bull kid got a pass I read. Sammy the bull just saved that fama guy.