Nah you're wrong. Roger Vella lied, that's who you were referring too. Veasey and previte were made with no ceremony by Stanfa, or were about to be. Previte although a rat was definitely around a lot in those days. Just goes to show you how retarded Stanfa was.
Veasey says in his book he was made the right way with a ceremony
I stand corrected,I have never read his book. For what it's worth he seems like a lying sack of shit but that's just my take.
