the same fbi affadivit that mentioned calabrese naming 60 names?
the one you claimed to never have seen
Here's the report right here, cook. Where in it is there any mention of 60 current made members?
All we have is on page 3 where it reads "Nicholas Calabrese will also testify about and identify persons who are current made members of the Chicago LCN. Nicholas Calabrese will also testify about the structure of the Chicago LCN and the chain of command for the Chicago LCN from the late 1960's through the present."
In other words, he covered the Outfit's membership both past and present.
That 60 figure comes from Chicago Sun-Times reporter Steven Warmbir, who was covering the Family Secrets trial. Part of what he said in the link below reads:
In addition to the 14 murders, Calabrese confessed to, he told prosecutors about: --22 other additional mob murders he knew about --4 attempted murders --5 bombings --2 extortions --60 names of made men in the Outfit
Again, he's obviously covering things past and present. And considering we had the FBI in Chicago cite 25-30 members, there's no reason to assume Calabrese was talking about 60 current made guys.
This all makes sense if people will take the blinders off and go with the available facts rather than wishful thinking.
In other words, the feds contradicted their own sworn witness, exactly what we are trying to explain to you. What part of this simple concept do you not understand?
I couldn't care less about the current "debate" on here, but Ivy is right.
Calabrese gave the 60 names, and it obviously included, at the very least, people in jail, and almost certainly dead people he could ID as made.
Chuck Goudie reported on it and qualified the number with the statement: "60 made members, many of whom are still out on the street."
That being said the 28 figure thrown out by the FBI is now getting so old that it really probably cannot be seen as current. It's at least, what, 7 years old?
The best info I've heard in addition to the fed's number is that Fosco said that Magnifichi told him they made some guys either in the 90s or 2000s, I forget which decade, it's buried somewhere in the comment section on that site.
Interestingly this could probably all be solved with a call to the Chicago FBI office by a reporter like Warmiber--he could simply ask them how many made guys they believe there are--but he or a similar reporter likely won't cover it until something relevant happens (well, more relevant than the debate as to Ivy Leagu's merit as a poster).
