And Manton these days especially its more factioned based with guys not even sure who the head is. They kick up to who they're told to and if you think Shacks wasnt connected to the Cheese and the North End fellas then your wrong. Theres video of Louie, Cheese, and Limone meeting in Sharon from a little before Cheese got busted and the other busts. So whats that say, they were just meeting up to have a cup of coffee. No my friend think about, its still going on they are just in transion right now waiting to figure everything out.