Originally Posted By: StLguy
I always thought that the extreme hatred people had for hipsters was strange. Granted, I dislike them too, but I still think they catch too much hatred and blame for some things. You complain about the "new Brooklyn" in your rant, but if you look at the demographics (particularly in regards to the Chinese and Carribean people) there would be a 'new brooklyn' without the hipsters. Over the course of your life, hispanics completed a similar change in much of the Bronx. I am no expert, but it doesn't seem that there were any hipsters involved in that. Where are your "goddamn ch*nks/sp*cs" rants at? Sometimes it seems that the hipsters catch all the heat because they are PC approved targets and most people don't have the balls to make the same types of rants against the Chinese, hispanics, or other new groups changing neighborhoods/cities.

Well, first of all, I should really apologize for singling out the Midwest. Being that you're from Missouri, I can see where that would be offensive. The truth is, these kids are from everywhere.

Originally Posted By: StLguy
Where are your "goddamn ch*nks/sp*cs" rants at?

I can't explain New York City life to you anymore than you can explain Midwestern life to me. All we can do is try. But here's how I feel about it in a nutshell: New York has always been a city of immigrants, and we welcome immigrants here every day. Welcoming entitled hippies from other areas of the country is a different story. They're driving the property values up and pushing the blue collar people (who've been here for GENERATIONS) out at a much faster rate than a bunch of newly arrived immigrants making minimum wage in a restaurant kitchen. And lest you think I'm some poor and bitter socialist, you should know that I make my living today as a landlord and property manager of buildings in three different boroughs of this city. But what's right is right.

One of my buildings is in Astoria, which is quickly becoming gentrified with these kids. And the truth is, I'd rather keep a family that's been in the neighborhood for three generations than to make an extra three or four hundred a month renting to these kids. But I have, of course, rented to them. The upside is that the rent usually comes straight from their parents, so there's rarely an eviction. And they don't usually stay very long. Two or three years and NYC is out of their system.

Originally Posted By: StLguy
Sometimes it seems that the hipsters catch all the heat because they are PC approved targets and most people don't have the balls to make the same types of rants against the Chinese, hispanics, or other new groups changing neighborhoods/cities.

I'm a lot of things, but politically correct isn't one of them. And if you think I'm short on balls, then you don't know a thing about me. I'd just encourage you to ask around about me on this board to the people who have known me for awhile. And again, StLguy, I didn't mean to single you out. As a matter of fact, I don't even recall you posting in this thread, so I certainly didn't reply to you personally. But let's not hijack this topic any further. You can pm me anytime you want smile.



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