Originally Posted By: SharpieOne
Originally Posted By: TheArm
Originally Posted By: SharpieOne
Arm,

Is Turk Zogby still alive? Russ still run that crew? Heard they closed their social club across from Castronovo's, on Bleecker. That was wide out in the open last time I was in that area.

Any truth that 2 guys, young guys, roiders even, were made out of the Utica crew within the last 10 years? I'd venture to guess Utica has more made guys operating cohesively than Syracuse or Rochester, right?


I believe the Turk is still alive but inactive. I hear rumors that they were ready tio reopen the Angelo Grillo case and charge him, but nothing ever came of that. The social club across from Phil's is closed but the one on Bleeker and Mohawk is still very much active.
Russ still runs the crew day to day, but has never been made an actual Capo, he might hold the record for the longest "acting" title in the history of the LCN.
The two guys that were made were part of the crew from the old Gym on Whitesboro street (Rick P and Frankie M)
Rick was a disaster when I knew him back in the day, but he has grown into a really right guy, Frankie was always loose cannon, but I am told he has settled down and is more stand up in his old age as well. I really shouldn’t talk I was a young dumb ass in those days too. If the walls in the back room of Whitey’s could talk...:)
Yes the Utica crew is bigger than Syracuse and better st up than Rochesster. The old school guys from the bowling ally on Erie Blvd in east Syracuse (Andaloro, Salarno, Sabastian, Torio, Grenio, ) are all gone, but the new generation are some capable kids. "John J" (The restaurant guy from the airport) runs that crew. Lots of book, shy and women, and they have money on the street from Verona in a partnership with Utica.
The biggest shocker to me was, that that lowlife Matty Cuda who tried to suck up to the Colombos back in the 80s was charged with beating up his mother (I knew Joya, she was a sweet lady)and if I heard right, child molestation????
To bad the guy who shot him in front of Granmaldis was such a bad aim



Were those two clubs open at the same time? Same people go there or different members?


There were 3 clubs back in the day, and a host of hang outs
The one accross from Castranovas was more the young bucks like me, spent a lot of time there.
The one on Bleeker and Mohawk was for the old timers, in fact it was sort of an honor to be invited there or be allowed to stay if you didn't have a specific reason to be there.
The club on 2nd avanue was the Colombo's/Buffalino's club.
The hang outs were the Gym on the west side, The Regency on james, The Elbow room on South St, Whiteys way up on Bleeker, TRs and Rosies after hours, and of course Uncle Henry's way back in the day.

Last edited by TheArm; 01/27/14 04:57 PM.

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