Originally Posted By: goombah
Originally Posted By: dontomasso
I dont think Biden would beat Hilary, and I do not think she is by any means a slam dunk. All you have to do is go back to 2008 when Obama came out of nowhere and cleaned her clock. Truth is she is a terrible campaigner, and she could lose the nominatioon and/or the general election. Personally I think Bill is more interested in her getting the job than she is. Like her or not, she has put in her entire adult life in public service..from the Watergate committee, to First Lady of Arkansas, to Firt Lady of the U.S. to United States Senator, to Presidential candidate to Secretary of State. She has every right to sit back and smell the flowers.


I recently had the same discussion - Hillary is an awful campaigner. Especially considering that she is married to one of the best campaigners of the past 30 years. Plus she is getting old and will have a tough time convincing some voters because of her age.

Biden is in much the same position Al Gore was in heading into 2000. Gore was trying to distance himself from the Clinton affair scandal, which is not as bad as Biden trying to get out from the poor presidency of Obama. Gore was a vanilla personality and didn't use Clinton enough IMO, but Biden is going to be associated with many of the failures of his boss' term, from health care to Benghazi.


I remember in 08 one of the drawbacks to McCain before he picked Palin and made a number of other mistakes was his age which was 72 at the time. Hilary will be 68 when this next election rolls around and it will work against her. Throw in the fact she's not the greatest campaigner it's tougher than everyone thinks. That being said I think she still has a shot.

I just can't see Biden winning nor do I want him to. I can tolerate him as a VP he's by no means a stupid man, but the guy has no tact and he doesn't know when to shut his mouth. The shit he's said over the years makes me want to either laugh or fall out of my chair in embarrassment. I don't think he has the grace or the overall ability to take the helm of this country


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