Originally Posted By: pmac
now to really piss people off the guys legacy is he son got whacked his dad too his sisters husband. some more of his cousins. he was a huge drug pusher, but the [BadWord] were bigger they split the 400 kilo's of herion with the cherry hill gambinos. guy wasnt even a captain in the lcn. he ran montreal for a couple years. don't remember any boss having his family wiped out like that. he was a good diplomat between the bikers up there. if they had the murder in the aid of ract. and the death pen there would be no murders up there like they do here always playing the death penalty card. eric holder hasn't deciced yet that's why so many guys flip.



That's actually not his legacy at all. And throughout Montreal Law Enforcement he's said to have been at the reigns of Montreal Organized Crime, as far as Sicilians are concerned, since the late 80's, that's a lot more than a few years, and his father re-took the boss title only after Vito went to Prison for the three capo murders. I don't really think you can say anyone was a "bigger" in drugs. They may have been bigger dealers, but Montreal were at the helm of the whole Pizza Connection thing, even prior to that, Montreal was pretty much the port of where all the drugs went to and was shipped out of. There's a reason why Carmine Galante had to go through Montreal for his Heroin pipeline. And he wasn't a captain in NY sense, he was the head of his own organization in Montreal, that's pretty simple. Fact is, he wasn't the average Soldier or cronie for the Bonanno's. If that was the case, Massino wouldn't of tried to keep Sciascia's murder a secret from him, in fear of some sort of retaliation.

You keep mentioning his father and son being killed as a way to discredit his criminal run, like all that stuff didn't transpire until only after he was sent to prison for 10 years. His top guy made a move against him while he was inside, and it just so happened to work with the help of Montagna. Big deal. Yet when he got out, the evidence says he moved on all of those involved, and the majority of them ended up dead. But according to what you're saying, that only happened because Montreal doesn't have a death penalty, as if that fact negates the fact that Rizzuto had enough power to move against that specific number of rivals without immediate reprecussions. Yes, his father and son was killed, that doesn't negate the fact that people paid for it though. Surely the average soldier would've most likely been hit if he attempted such a thing, in NY or anywhere else.


And I honestly think these numbers of modern made guys in the tri-state, are seriously inflated. I'm having a hard time believing there's 800 made men in total with any family currently in NY and elsewhere, or any other family at that. Modern day charts list about 180-220 guys made men specifically for the Gambino's, at most. But even at that, those are some serious estimations. The Patriarca's are on severe life support right now. Half of Philadelphia is getting indicted.

Last edited by SinatraClub; 12/30/13 03:33 AM.