Originally Posted By: Johnny_Pops
Originally Posted By: TheArm
Originally Posted By: Johnny_Pops
TheArm seems pretty well informed. I wonder if you could share some more insights on Hamilton? With the influence of the Siderno group, the Rizzuto organization and LCN on the various local factions it is hard to get an accurate picture of the current situation. Also, something that always intrigued me - why wasn't there a response from Buffalo when the Musitanos (as a proxy for the Rizzutos) whacked Johnny Papalia? Thanks.


The current situation is a mess. Hamilton is being run by a traditional Capo and a "street boss" who seems to be more than soldier and less than a skipper, the logic being it is harder to track two guys than one.
As for retaliation for murder of Pops, the sad thing is those with the wherewithal, the balls and the motivation were either too long of tooth, in prison or dead. Off the top of my head, were any of the guys from the old Local 442 crew, 20 years younger at the time (Rocco L in particular)or guys like Benny or Jimmy T, they would have disemboweled Murdock Paddy and Angelo


Thanks. The Musitanos are so low key now, they seem to have disappeared, although you do hear they absorbed a lot of Papalia's enterprise after he was hit. You only read about the Violi/Luppinos in connection with their 'NDrangheta connection and their supposed participation in the Montreal power struggle. With Jimmy Luppino passing away, I wondered how much influence LCN had on the younger generation.


Hamilton, and for that matter Toronto, is down to a hard core.
They have half the people they had on the street even 15 years ago.
With Vito dead no one knows whats going to happen in Montreal now. I don't see a lot of GenXers ready for prime time in either place, but who knows?


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