I've never heard that the Outfit made more or less than any other family, though they did start late. I forget when, but well after the glory days.

I don't know the last known making ceremony either, it has been the subject of debate on here. The last "known" one, in terms of when someone flipped and talked about it, was probably decades ago.

The 30 number here seems about right to me, though. And IvyLeague and a few other people. Of course other people claim it's far more.

But one thing I will say is, most of the guys on the list have been arrested multiple times. Look at people like Mike Sarno, Rudy Fratto, DiFronzo, Solly D, and on on and on--all have lengthy rap sheets.

So for you to believe there is far more "made" guys you almost have to believe in two separate Outfits--one the one we know about composed of a bunch of (apparently) clods who can't keep from getting indicted--and another one that exists in almost total secrecy and expert criminal stealth.