And I never said the WHG was strong in the 90s, all that was left was.the guys.from the Moose Club and by then the hill was done, late 90s and 2000s Somerville, had independent crews doing shit, and Angelesco and his guys weren't shaking these guys down. Richie Sperlinga was.considered to be one of the few Winter Hill guys that may have been doings things before.he died and him and Howie were very close. And the independent crews are still around. Your obviously an older guy with the info your posting.