Originally Posted By: pmac
hairy I just took quick look at gravanos tail. he says he was made by big paul so the Gambino books may have been closed up untll Gambino died in oct 76. goes down the cellar to big paul joe n and neil. now we got gaspipe who said he was made in 1974 the guy real old Genovese guy barone who flip cause chins kid wanted him dead said also he was made in 74 also fish cafaro. Michael franses goin all the way back 1993 to when his 1st book came out said it was 1975 Halloween he has never backd off that claim he was 24 or 25, could you imagine gottis guys havin to kiss his ass. then you had buster ardito the Genovese capo talking to his wired up lawyer friend pete p. "they let all the rats in when they open the books in 74". Im thinking carlo was dead set against opening the books and was the driving factor in having them closed in 58 or 59. ardito also was caught on the lawyers wire saing he came in 1958. and finally you got massino testimony someone put up online, very hard to hair.galante started making al those guys in 77 copa,lino,d'amico,massino.


Looking into it, Gravano said that the books were reopened in 1975 but never claimed (at least in the book) that he was made that year. He says that "There was a long waiting list of associates, and each Family was initially alloted ten new members....The following year [1976] the Families were permitted to replace made members who had been lost through attrition. For the next group, later the same year [1976] Toddo Aurello proposed Sammy."

///Although a little fuzzy, I believe Gravano to be saying that the first group of guys that were made, was in 1976. The second group of guys that were made, was in late 1976. Gravano was part of this second group. So, to Gravano´s credit, him saying that he was made in 1975, most likely is a misunderstanding from our part. His recollection of guys being made in 1976, and in late 1976, seems to be correct. So it´s only Michael Franzese´s claim of being made in 1975 that I have a problem with.

Interesting enough, if you take a look in the Tony Mirra files, it says that Mirra was made with his uncle very late December 1976 by Galante. Both Mirra and his uncle seems to be in the first class of Bonanno guys being made. Later in 1977, guys like Coppa, Lino, D´Amico, Massino etc followed in the second Bonanno group. My point is that no one seems to have been made in 1975, but later.


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