Yes totally agree with your view on the irish oc, as for shundler its kinda like micheal tufar o who someone made up about him being the boss of new orleans, he is also a real person down there who owns some legitimate bussinesses but has no oc connections. It seems when some1 wants make some bullshit up like that(for a reason i can possibly fathom), they figure if they choose some1 real and from that community people will b more inclined to buy into it. Yes the phildelphia irish mob thread on this site is a great way for someone to waste a lot of time and not really gain any new information, in case any1s interested lol.