True on all points mulberry. I think what would made a better topic was who made the most off of traditional rackets? Numbers, sports, shy.... In jersey both Andy Gerard and Tino had nine figure sportbooks that they ran thru guys like Phil D and Blue. The gerardo/dephillips crew had a dozen all night poker games going on daily around the newark area in the 80s, 90s. Crap games with six figure bank rolls... I can only imagine the money they took in one night. Willie Morrettis numbers biz supposedly had hundreds of runners... I couldnt get close to thinking of all the big gambling/shy guys.