Hi Ivy, Yeh I know, except Jarrett was in 1999 and Chiaramonte was in 2001. Correct me if I'm wrong on those years. That would be 12 and 14 years ago. So, really, in the last 12 years, it's only been Zizzo who disappeared. The confusion among the Mob Watchers is that some of them can't believe DiFronzo retreated. You gotta take my word on this one Ivy, the guy retreated a long time ago. So did Lombardo. And, if you notice, Jarrett (1999) was the 26th St. Crew, Chiaramonti (2001) was Cicero and Zizzo (2006) was Cicero. Nothing to do with the North. Any further thoughts?