Originally Posted By: livelifenoregrets
Not really debatable at all. In mafia circles the Americans are now considered bottom feeders and replaceable.


Are people in Mafia circles saying that or are you saying that?

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They are Hollywood not gangsters. They ruined the Mafia.


Some have written books or had films and TV shows made about them. But that's a very tiny percentage.

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Between losers like John Gotti, Joey Merlino and Nicky Scarfo with their media bullshit and bosses/top guys flipping they are a joke.


Again, this seems to be your opinion more than anything.

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Italian police have even said that the Canadian Mafia is superior. Wire tap evidence in Italy shows the Mafia over there refers to Canada as "America" now.


Where have they said this?

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Canada is considered a safe haven and a good place to make money. The laws pale in comparison and the border security is completely unsecure for easy access to transport drugs from Canada in to the USA. Top mobsters with large respect live in Canada and there are far more Canadians going back for business to the old country than from the USA. Top Italian mobsters go to their Canadian counter parts to hide when in trouble and to launder cash. The game has changed.


TOC in Canada certainly has more of an international flair, with stronger ties to Italy, but that alone doesn't necessarily mean it is more powerful, wealthy, or successful. TOC in Canada also has a more direct hold on the drug trade but, as I've said many times before, the vast majority of it is being smuggled into Canada for distribution there. Not from Canada into the U.S. And, yes, Canadian officials are having to play catch up but look at the damage and ensuing chaos Project Colisee alone caused. I think you're buying too much into the "fall of the NY Mafia and rise of Vito Rizzuto" mentality.


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