Originally Posted By: Joe_Bonanno
I hate Los Zetas, and other mexican cartels. They are insane, i've seen how they cut people's heads with knives, chainsaws, and then they boil them. They are a bunch of wild animals, they don't have code like the rest of the respected gangsters. Their code is the money - they do horrible things for them, they are unable to do sitdowns, or solve the problem other way. They just kill everyone, and torture them.

I like Yakuza, Vor v zakone, all gangs who have some code of honor.

What "code" are you talking about? Don't kid yourself thinking gangsters have an "honorable" code, for all gangsters it all comes down to the money or business. You're focusing too much on the violence that is or not connected to organized crime in Mexico. 95% percent of the homicides in Mexico are not investigated but then again just because there are homicides in a town doesn't mean there is a "fight" between organized crime groups. Mexico has always or was a somewhat violent country but it was covered up by the PRI party like they are covering up or trying to cover up stuff related to violence or organized crime all together. Much of the brutality you heard a couple of years back was mainly done by Los Zetas and the Gulf Cartel war for Monterrey-Reynosa battle and the splinter groups trying to assert their dominance unto other splinter groups. Not all cartels are at war with each other, hell the cartel "wars" topped and really ended at 2010, many of the large cartels have alliances with each other. Since 2009 the Sinaloa Cartel and Tijuana Cartel have been at piece and the reason was because of the treaty they made with each other after the Teo-Ingeriero war or dispute for the Tijuana plaza. The Sinaloa Cartel pays "piso" or a tax to the Arellano Felix family/Tijuana Cartel to pass drugs through their territory but not only that they also co operate with each other to pass drugs. They ship and distribute their drugs together across the US with different stamp packages going to their respective distributors in the US. Remember the 105 tons of weed confiscated in Baja California about 2 years ago? Well half of it was from Mayo Zambada(Sinaloa Cartel) and some of it was from El Inge (Arellano Felix Family/Tijuana Cartel). The Knights Templar also pays taxes to the Tijuan Cartel to pass drugs through there and they also co-operate with the Sinaloa Cartel to pass drugs into the US. The Sinaloa Cartel also pays taxes to the Gulf Cartel to pass drugs using the Miguel Aleman and Matamoros corridors, there has never been bad blood between them since 2006.( Also with the Knights Templar cartel). The reason why the Los Zetas and many other upcoming/splinter groups are or were so violent was because they were not established as the old guard and because they had been mostly cut out of the drug trafficking, so they resorted to extortion, kidnapping, cd piracyy, human trafficking etc. crimes not practiced by the old guard and to some extent considered "taboo" amongst the drug trafficking world of Mexico. So that's when shit started to get ugly because Los Zetas used brutality to either intimidate their rivals/police/citzens, heat up a "plaza" or territory, consolidate their power. Many or most of the violence you see in Mexico(since 2010) is from street gangs, small cartels or ordinary violence not associated with drugs or illegal income but there still is some bad blood between Los Zetas and the Gulf Cartel.

Last edited by BordertownResident; 05/28/13 01:24 PM.