Hello SC, I understand your warning, but you need to give Ivy a warning also and not ONLY pick on me or anybody else from Chicago. I think it would be best if Ivy stuck to his conflicting Feds Reports (1997 & 2007) and The New York Families and not comment about Chicago of which he knows nothing about except what he's read in a report. He's a so called expert on New York and I am an expert on Chicago. If he continues to quote his report, then I will quote the other Report which is in direct opposition to his Report. What does this mean? It means that the Crime Commission/Feds Reports are conflicting because they don't know or understand everything. It's always been that way. That's the point of the whole situation. In my opinion and the opinion of about 4 or 5 other commenters, He is a Chicago Hater and a Gay marriage hater which is rather ridiculous. I will adhere to your warning as long as it's done IN A FAIR MANNER. Sincerely, Elmwood Parker.