I read somewhere that the set hoover crips killed Raymond Washington, no idea if there's any truth to that though. Tookie definitely killed those people though, i didn't read those articles but there was never any reasonable doubt that Tookie killed those people. I've also read places that Tookie was a founder along with Raymond, as well as Barefoot Pookie and especially Jimel Barnes taking Tookie's place as co-founder, i personally think Jimel Barnes was most likely co-founder. Tookie was cleary a scary guy in his day though -