Here's an interesting exchange with Jerry Catena at one of the Kefauver hearings:
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The Chairman. Why does a fellow like you, if you don't mind us talking about it, and how does a fellow like you get started in this sort of underworld kind of business? Is it because of associates you have, or lack of education, lack of housing? What is it ?

Mr. Catena. Do you want my opinion ?

The Chairman. Yes; I would be glad to have it.

Mr. Catena. I think it is mostly lack of education.

The Chairman. Where were you born, for instance ?

Mr. Catena. I was born in Newark, N. J.

Senator Tobey. Are your father and mother living ?

Mr. Catena. No; my mother died when I was 15 years old.

The Chairman. How much schooling do you have ?

Mr. Catena. I graduated school and went to night school for 2 years.

The Chairman. You graduated from high school ?

Mr. Catena. No; I graduated from grammar school and went to night school, high school, 2 years.

The Chairman. It is just the associates you had around, some way to find an easy way to make money, is that the way you got into it ?

Mr. Catena. I believe that is it.

The Chairman. Sir?

Mr. Catena. I believe that is it, Senator. I went in business and am in business now and getting along fine, and I want to raise my children properly. I got all this publicity, and I got so confused. I made some nice associates, and then I could not keep on doing it. The publicity just knocked me out again.

The Chairman. Well, you got into things to make easy money ?

Mr. Catena. I know that; I have nobody else to blame but myself.

The Chairman. Sir?

Mr. Catena. I have nobody else to blame but myself.