yeah, you're right, i think i've had the 17 year # floating in my head for some reason. dom irrera is pretty good, but stand up is so subjective that there is no "one size fits all" formula. dice doesn't get along with dom at all, and there have been more than a few instances where ireera was luckey to not get his ass kicked according to many sources, seems like dom has held a weird grudge against him on account of dice blowing up, while dom has struggled to get to the respectable place where he is today.