It's just interesting to me because all of the mobsters around there are in the northern suburbs, generally speaking, while the majority of the working class (these days probably more like working poor) suburbs where you would expect most stuff like that to flourish are on the exact other side of the city, south of it, or "down river."

And in between them you basically have a city that is not really a city.

Metro Detroit for the most part does not really have an urban feel, or culture. In Chicago you drive by certain low-rent neighborhoods int he city and the suburbs and can really visualize how there could be a card game in back, poker machine, guy giving out juice loans, etc.

Much harder to visualize that in Detroit. There was such a complete and rapid exodus from the city by the whites that there isn't anywhere near the amount of older stuff you would expect to find, generally speaking.

But it's a big place, and I'm sure there is a lot I don't know about it.