This is from that Fitzy and Frank show on Smokinggun go there for all the archives. They have plenty of conversations about Chin and the family and Ruggiero restaurant, triangle social club, and Quiet Dom Cirillo/Benny Eggs Mangano. Don't let these conversations fool you, Fritzy Giovanelli is a powerful guy, he actually killed a cop with a few guys one time and survived court for three mistrials. Fritzy represented the Genovese in that Commission meeting in 2000.