Well if you mean murder then I agree. When you said violence I thought you meant beatings.
Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
Well if you mean murder then I agree. When you said violence I thought you meant beatings.
Like I said, it could be happening, but I haven't heard any word of it anywhere, not even on boards like this one, and definitely not in the mainstream news.
A lot of the Outfit's rackets were cut into by technology and changes in the law... there are casinos around here now, you can bet on line, instead of a juice loan you get a legal payday loan, porno is legal... and on and on.
I know you believe otherwise but my contention is that it is nearly dead and I will continue to believe so until someone shows me otherwise.
Even in Family Secrets, none of the crimes that were discussed took place any later than the very early 2000s, though the trial took place in 2007.
Probably the best evidence I can think of that the Outfit is still going strong was the fact that James Marcello was paying Nick Calabrese's family $4K a month for him to keep quiet right up until the trial.
But, again, I don't maintain that it's entirely defunct, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was very close to that.
If people believe otherwise, great, but I have seen no evidence supporting that position.
Good post. And they just legalized video gaming, I believe. Which seemed like a huge money maker for them.
Also for porn and paydays loans, I wouldn't be surprised for the Outfit to be heavily involved in those legit business's.
There were also all those rumors about guys with mob ties being involved with the bids for those casinos in Rosement and else where.
Rumors about them being involved in unions at O'Hare.
I have no idea how strong or prominent the outfit is. I just find it hard to believe in a big city like Chicago, with lots of Italians and the level of corruption in the city and especially in the suburbs, that the outfit would just completely disappear. Would make no sense to me.
