dsbaloo, i mean 'gangsters' who are tough. if i was to just say 'tough' guys in general...id be typing all night. some guys [junior gotti for example] are big, toned, juiced up, and there only tough with a crew or a name behind them.or stripes on there sleeves. or [worse] with 'whiskey muscles'. a real tough guy stands his ground, whether hes going to get his ass beat or not. ive never been able to say ive accomplished much in my life but ive stood my ground when i 'needed to'.