I will say Obama has laid out more specifics than Romney. But four years ago he promised this and we are still in a bad position. Plus you could point out flaws in his plan. Anyone can twist anything to make it sound good, Obamas been doing that for years. whether or not he can make it a reality is another thing.

Btw Ronnie, you're a good man and intelligent poster but you gotta stop with the "mittens" thing. It's funny once, but when you do it over and over again it really doesn't tickle the gut. Calling him Romney would do fine