Do any of you Philly guys know how these guys came up.What kind of legit jobs did they have,before they got involved?the reason I ask this is because I see that when Gabe Lucibello just took that deal they described him has an ex-ironworker.I remember reading that Ligambi ran a car wash on 2nd and Oregon for like 10 yrs.[Barrones?]I think Chang's father was an ex-ironworker.They always said Anthony Staino was a businessman.[what business did he run?]